"PS9" (PS9)
12/26/2016 at 13:14 • Filed to: None
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12/26/2016 at 13:14 • Filed to: None | 0
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...Is absolute garbage. Chokes on streaming video, barely keeps up with the cable modem, and can not in any way provide wireless speeds of 150mb/s. Or 54mbs. It actually tops out at 40. I don’t have an opportunity to test load balancing, but I’m sure that shit tier as well. tl:dr -> $30 paperweight. Never buying anything with this company’s name on it ever again.
Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 13:21 |
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Routerboard hAP series. Bit of a learning curve (lots of a learning curve) to set up but enterprise-level software on those buggers for a ridiculously cheap price. Can run dd-WRT as well.
CB
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 13:24 |
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I bought a Belkin wireless dongle once. Could do a blazing 1 mbps over 802.11n. What a piece of garbage.
Echo51
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 13:28 |
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the 54mbit rating doesn’t guarentee 54mbit over wifi anyway, but actually the 40-ish as you see. It’s not garbage, you’re just expecting too much/buying the sales bullshit.
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PS9
> CB
12/26/2016 at 13:29 |
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Woah man. Slow down with that superfast advanced technology. What, you trying to download porn from the center of the galaxy or something man?
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CB
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 13:32 |
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I have needs that need to be satisfied.
404 - User No Longer Available
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 13:42 |
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Did you know... Belkin bought Linksys out a while back?
And if you really hate someone, set them up with a D-Link router.
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PS9
> Echo51
12/26/2016 at 13:48 |
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No it isn’t ‘too much’. A wireless connection with exactly one device not even a foot away should yield something much closer to the stated maximum. Don’t give me that nonsense when a bargain basement cable modem can speedtest for 10mbs over it’s rated maximum with a server miles away and however-many machines in the interim between my house and the server, but this off the shelf router fails to route, fails to maintain it’s connection with the WAN and fails to provide data speeds it blatantly claims to right on the bloody box.
It’s not ‘sales bullshit’. It’s not like a sales man told me ‘this router will be really fast!’ when in reality what ‘really fast’ means to him and what it means to me are different. It’s not like a burger advertisement where the commercial shows this pristine perfectly assembled piece of culinary perfection, but you know what you will get at the counter will probably not look at all like that. When you write ‘up to 150 mbs’ on the box, but you don’t even break the minimum 54 mbs standard set by the specific wireless technology you say your device can meet, you don’t get to brush that epic failure level of performance aside as ‘marketing bullshit’.
No, 40 mbs is not ‘actually good’. It would be if that’s what you’d get after many devices were connected and load balancing were a thing. But it’s one device not even a foot away connected to a 100mbs ISP! A 60 mbs drop in speed is not ‘actually good’. Choking on a streaming video as you are trying to watch it is not ‘actually good’. Not being to meet any of the minimums stated on the freaking box is not ‘actually good’ It’s actually crap, and it belongs in the trash.
Rico
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 13:52 |
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So why did you buy it? Anyone with access to a computer knows Belkin has and always will make pure crap.
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PS9
> Rico
12/26/2016 at 13:56 |
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They would not have a presence on store shelves still if that were the case.
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Rico
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 14:03 |
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Lots of garbage is sold on store shelves. As long as people keep buying it, they’ll stay in business.
Amazon has a great selection of quality routers for various price points, I highly recommend it.
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Echo51
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 14:12 |
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40mbps is pretty damn good, coming from a guy who has a 10/1mbit connection. If you cared to do a quick googling you’d also be aware that you ARE getting your 54mbit, but some is lost to overhead and what not, thus the lower actual useable speed. 802.11G is UP TO 54mbps. Read into it before you take the pretty numbers on the box for facts.
The choking/shoddy traffic managing is however typical for these cheaper routers, i’ll have to give you that.
Also sorry about your purchase, i understand the need to vent. Don’t think the store will take it back given a similar rant?
E92M3
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 14:57 |
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Try flashing it with an open source firmware. Seriously!
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PS9
> Echo51
12/26/2016 at 15:28 |
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40 mbs out of a device that promises to handle a maximum of 150 mbs is pretty damn terrible. ‘But I only have 10 mbs’ doesn’t mitigate this at all. To someone who drives an 3 cylinder manual diesel, a 250 HP sports car might look like a great upgrade, until you consider that the sports car in question is a Challenger hellcat, which is supposed to dyno for waaaaaaay more than that. You can be a knowledgeable car person and understand that the factory HP claims are made on an engine dyno and your chassis dyno results will differ, but that there are diesel 3 cylinders in the world still do not make a result like this one anything other an unacceptable.
Coming from a guy who was built networks before, set up subnets and NAT servers, routed Cat5 through entire buildings, and has helped troubleshoot friends homes dealing with wireless throughput and deadspots, there isn’t 15 mbs worth of ‘overhead’. Also remember that 54 mbs is supposed to be the minimum. It claims to handle 150 mbs, so 73% of all of it’s bandwidth is ‘overhead’? I’m not buying that for even one second. It would be understandable if it were in a room a floor up and three walls away, but it right there, in the same room, with an unobstructed path to the one device it has a connection to. A result that is 3.75x below the stated minimums and 60% slower than my actual connection speed is unacceptable. That there are people out there still on dial-up does not make this bad thing somehow good.
Don’t think the store will take it back given a similar rant?
Well it turns out that a lot of people like to return electronics immediately post-holidays, and being offered store credit only is a great way to stop a lot of them in their tracks. Particularly people who brought something somewhat defective (but also admittedly, people who have buyers remorse over a perfectly good product, or made a big purchase they realize the cannot afford now). I’m not too keen on buying routers from them again, so I suppose it’s capitalism: 1, Me: 0 this time around.
Wacko
> Rico
12/26/2016 at 15:36 |
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I hate Their networking devices, but I do like their WEMO light switches. I actually have 4 now.
Only hassle is when you have to replace your router. Other than that they are great.
cbell04
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 16:32 |
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Come on did you really expect a $30.00 router to be good? We spent about $130ish and it’s been nice. Our old router still technically worked but we had to reset it daily as it loved to lock up and die.
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Echo51
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 16:32 |
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The 802.11G standard is maximum of 54mbps, no idea where you dig up the “minimum” stuff from. The 150mbps COULD be LAN/cabled, but normally that’s either 100 or 1000 mbps(gigabit). Wikipedia lists the rough expected max over 802.11G as 31.4 Mbit/s.
Do also read all the asterisk parts on belkin’s own site and you’ll see where all your speeds are going aswell, along with before-mentioned sales-bullshit: http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F9K1009/
Take the storecredit and buy something nicer like chocolate, or a good drink, or some other nice gadget instead?
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 20:12 |
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Before you send it to the trash, look into an aftermarket firmware....if it can run DDWRT, OpenWRT or Tomato, try those first because sometimes new firmware can make a HUUUGGEEEE difference. I’ve had DDWRT and OpenWRT on different brands of routers for years and they are rock solid. (As in like never have to restart them or change settings on them other than during power outages ‘rock solid’).
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PS9
> Echo51
12/26/2016 at 20:20 |
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The 802.11G standard is maximum of 54mbps
Come on man, ‘n150' is right there in the name. It claims to be an 802.11n Device, which means it can (supposedly) provide 150 mbs of bandwidth. It’s all over the box art and even on the website you linked to. No one said it or any of my devices were 802.11g. They aren’t. And before you ask, no there isn’t a setting in the device’s firmware/webpage that allows you to switch between the two standards, and given that all of my hardware is 802.11n, there shouldn’t even be a need to do that.
Do also read all the asterisk parts on belkin’s own site and you’ll see where all your speeds are going aswell, along with before-mentioned sales-bullshit:
Yeah, thanks but I already combed that site up and down for information. Every piece of networking technology you’re going to buy is going to attach ‘up to’ when they give you a throughput figure, because they can’t guarantee you’ll get Xmbs all the time in every single scenario. Would it not be fair to expect maximum performance in every single scenario, and many things can interfere with networking hardware in operation that manufacturers cannot control. Yes, all of that is a given. But it’s complete and utter motherfucking bullshit to ship a fucking product that cannot under any goddamn circumstance give you even a fraction of the fucking performance it claims to! It’s not at all even a tiny bit reasonable to to tell the consumer, ‘we’ll, we did say up to...’ when your product doesn’t deliver even 50% of what it was promised to do even under the most ideal of circumstances.
Here. Have a ‘400 HP’ Mustang. Note: Actual number of cylinders and horsepowers might vary. A lot.
Take the storecredit and buy something nicer like chocolate, or a good drink, or some other nice gadget instead?
I’d like to, but all their chocolate bars have asterisks on them that state ‘Actual quality may vary, product performs up to real chocolate but might also be dogshit’
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PS9
> cbell04
12/26/2016 at 20:22 |
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Come on did you really expect a $30.00 router to be good?
No. A 300mbs dual band router with a gigabit port would be ‘good’. I just wanted basic functionality - something you should be able to get for $30 - and I didn’t even get that. It’s not the price point, it’s the company and their crappy product.
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cbell04
> PS9
12/26/2016 at 23:17 |
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I honestly had no idea you could buy a wireless router of any sort other than used off Craigslist for $30.00 but I’ve never looked. Good luck